tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post4703774947969855016..comments2023-10-30T09:37:03.456-05:00Comments on Vikes Geek: Childress Builds Straw Man to Make Weak Casevikes geekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06530336385552424416noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-41465933141127104612007-06-26T00:23:00.000-05:002007-06-26T00:23:00.000-05:00Rick,You're probably right. The Vikings have a mu...Rick,<BR/><BR/>You're probably right. The Vikings have a much tougher schedule this year than last with a five-game stretch after the bye week at Chicago, at Dallas, against Philly, against San Diego, and at Green Bay. That easily could be five losses in a row even if the Vikings are getting some offensive production and the defense holds up. 5-11 or 6-10 looks pretty realistic. Playoffs do not.<BR/><BR/>VGvikes geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06530336385552424416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-1986506195821262212007-06-26T00:00:00.000-05:002007-06-26T00:00:00.000-05:00Why is 20 games a magical number? Why not 48? 64?I...Why is 20 games a magical number? Why not 48? 64?<BR/><BR/>If Childress has the experience of the world behind him, why does he need more than he has already had to prove something? And, to date, what, if anything, has he proven?<BR/><BR/>It's silly to say we have "no way of telling how this will play out" when the Vikings will be starting either a rookie or a player with one full season at quarterback and has no proven number one receiver.<BR/><BR/>In the long run, Chilly might prove something. And his offense might prove to be a "kick-ass offense." After one full season, and a promise from the front office that the next two seasons will be re-building seasons (their precise words), there is room for skepticism.<BR/><BR/>In any event, I'll grant you the 20 games that you requested, since I have no say in the matter and Chilly appears to be going nowhere for at least that long.<BR/><BR/>VGvikes geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06530336385552424416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-88478507164966481712007-06-25T23:47:00.000-05:002007-06-25T23:47:00.000-05:00Pacific,You prove the point that I make ever so of...Pacific,<BR/><BR/>You prove the point that I make ever so often. The longest responses and biggest rants come from readers who don't read the article carefully. To boot, you opted to rely on VikingUpdate.com to represent Vikings' fans and knowledgeable fans--and you did so without bothering to cite specific statements made by anyone at VikingUpdate. Nice touch!<BR/><BR/>As for your general criticism, if by "flew over my head" you mean that I virtually repeated Childress' point, I agree with you. Those were the very points to which this article was a response.<BR/><BR/>What is a "plethora of fans?" Two? Three? Three hundred? Henderson had a strong season in 2005 and appeared well-suited to playing outside. The sole concern that most informed observers had was over Henderson's ability to play MIKE with so little NFL experience. Feel free to dig through my columns from 2006 if you like. And feel free to support your comments with something other than the unsubstantiated N of 1 that you offer.<BR/><BR/>Somebody wanted Julian Peterson over Ben Leber? Stunning revelation Pacific. Next you'll inform me that the Vikings would have preferred Brian Urlacher over Leber. Nobody argued that the Vikings could not have done better or had higher aspirations than Leber. In fact, as I note, the jury is still out on Leber who primarily was a sub last season. But few people questioned Leber's ability when healthy. The main concern--and a legitimate concern--was whether Leber would recover from his injury.<BR/><BR/>I think you'll understand the point about drafting Greenway if I spell it out all the way. If Greenway had been healthy and ready to go last year, the plan was to move Henderson inside and use Greenway outside. That obviously didn't happen as Greenway was out for the season with an injury. Instead, it happened this year. <BR/><BR/>VGvikes geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06530336385552424416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-55545816089945163342007-06-25T19:52:00.000-05:002007-06-25T19:52:00.000-05:00Analysis aside, the bottom line is the Vikings wil...Analysis aside, the bottom line is the Vikings will be lucky to win 5 or 6 games this season.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13744582885286491021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-16865324816110217642007-06-25T11:33:00.000-05:002007-06-25T11:33:00.000-05:00Look at all the Monday morning Quarterbacks talkin...Look at all the Monday morning Quarterbacks talking and we have the whole season to go. Let Chilly,(which I'm not fond of) put a Viking team on the field for 20+ games and see where we are then. We have no way of telling how this will play out till after the 12th month, not the 6th month. The man has been in the NFL for many years, so who knows best. Don't beat him down before the season even starts. We should be more worried about a stadium first.jaguarxtypehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16962565691870858321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-4109560220952508422007-06-25T04:44:00.000-05:002007-06-25T04:44:00.000-05:00From the STrib April 29, 2006 "They signed 10 pla...From the STrib April 29, 2006 <BR/><BR/>"They signed 10 players and filled openings on the offensive line, at running back, kicker and safety.<BR/><BR/>Even after signing San Diego linebacker Ben Leber, the Vikings were still searching for an impact player to headline the unit that also has the steady but unspectacular E.J. Henderson in the middle."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268346.post-49931806569199081892007-06-25T03:00:00.000-05:002007-06-25T03:00:00.000-05:00I respectfully disagree.As intelligent as you soun...I respectfully disagree.<BR/><BR/>As intelligent as you sound, Childress' main point flew right over your head:<BR/><BR/>1. There was much deserved skepticism about the 2006 Vikings LB core before the season started. <BR/><BR/>2. The 2006 LB core exceeded expectations.<BR/><BR/>3. People do not have faith in the Vikings WR core for 2007. <BR/><BR/>4. Therefore, Childress draws a comparison, and says the WR core will exceed expectations, just like LB Core did in 2006.<BR/><BR/>Any Viking fan can tell you those first three points. If you seriously are going to argue any of those points, I have doubts that you really watch the Vikings. It leaves me wondering if you, like some of our beloved STRIB writers, just have a problem with Childress coaching the .<BR/><BR/>Some other points:<BR/><BR/>1. E.J. Henderson - I remember a plethora of fans saying Henderson was too slow to be an OLB in the Cover 2. He just didn’t have the speed according to them. Just because he had a lot of tackles in 2005 didn’t mean he had a good year. I’m sorry, prior to 2006, most fans would agree that all Henderson had done was disappoint. A lot of people loved his potential, but to say most thought he was solid? Baloney.<BR/><BR/>2. Ben Leber – “ Nobody impugned the Vikings' signing of Leber or even remotely suggested that it was anything other than an upgrade…”<BR/><BR/>Nobody had a problem with signing Ben Leber? Puhh-leeeaze. The complaining was rampant over at VikingUpdate.com that Ben Leber was a nobody who had been supplanted by a rookie linebacker halfway into his previous season. They were concerned about the injury to his foot. People wanted Julian Peterson and Will Witherspoon. Yea, a LOT of people REALLY had their doubts with the signing of Leber. Go tell the fans at VikingUpdate that everyone liked the signing of Leber, see the collective laugh you get.<BR/><BR/>3. “Childress, himself, clearly had concerns about Harris' ability to play in the NFL as he made Iowa linebacker Chad Greenway the Vikings' number one pick in the 2006 NFL draft.”<BR/><BR/>Wrong. The buzz throughout the whole offseason was that Napolean Harris would be lining up at MLB. Chad Greenway was drafted to be an OLB. That would mean Childress had concerns with E.J. Henderson’s ability, not Napos. Not to mention E.J.’s contract was going to be up so it’s obvious who Greenway was drafted to replace. Henderson’s stellar play in 2006 changed all that.Pacifichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831591993613724861noreply@blogger.com